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[DylanBradbury]

Discovered this article about how baseball team's used to undervalue their prospects when trading them, but tend to overvalue them now...



Once a upon a time, teams got great value by trading for minor league studs. Not anymore.


Twenty-one years ago, the Red Sox traded Jeff Bagwell for Larry Andersen. I know this because you can't write about lopsided MLB trades without writing the words "Jeff Bagwell for Larry Andersen." Andersen threw 22 innings of middle relief for Boston before leaving as a free agent. (In his defense, they were 22 really good innings.) Bagwell, once the voting members of the BBWAA realize that Justice Potter Stewart's definition of pornography does not work for pinpointing steroid users, will be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

Bagwell was a 22-year-old in Double-A at the time of the trade, which is to say no one but the most hardcore prospect fiends knew his name. He was in the minors during the era just before the Internet and 24-hour sports saturation elevated baseball prospects into the national consciousness; it was a time when teams could trade potential stars without fear of immediate revolt from their fan base.


You can read the rest of the article here: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7370324/the-mlb-prospect-bubble

[fatcowxlive]

Sergio Santos for Nestor Molina...?

Or Phillies giving the Jays Kyle Drebek, Travis d'Arnaud, andMichael Taylor (later to be flipped to the A's for Brett Wallace who later was trader to the Astros for Anthony Gose) are these not examples that the Jays have been doing for a while..?

[DylanBradbury]

fatcowxlive, I think it just proves how good Alex Anthopolous is at gauging talent.

[fatcowxlive]

^^ Yup Love AA's moves and how it makes the ball club better I honestly can't wait what we are going to do this next...., we are apperently in the running for Beltran as our first free agent move, and we are in the talks with people like Garza, Gio Gonzales (might be too overpriced by A's though), and Jurjenns (or how ever you spell him ) but yeah he is good for Toronto especially after J.P Riccardi (Remember Orlando Hudson for Troy Glaus and a PTBNL [Who was a young SS called Sergio Santos] or giving big bucks to a too old person...., like Frank Thomas).

[DylanBradbury]

^^ Yup Love AA's moves and how it makes the ball club better I honestly can't wait what we are going to do this next...., we are apperently in the running for Beltran as our first free agent move, and we are in the talks with people like Garza, Gio Gonzales (might be too overpriced by A's though), and Jurjenns (or how ever you spell him ) but yeah he is good for Toronto especially after J.P Riccardi (Remember Orlando Hudson for Troy Glaus and a PTBNL [Who was a young SS called Sergio Santos] or giving big bucks to a too old person...., like Frank Thomas).

Riccardi's tenure as GM was atrocious. He preached building through the draft, while at the same time signing free agents that made no sense to the team. Giving away talent for former starts at the end of their careers.

In AA we trust.

[fatcowxlive]

^^ Yes in AA we do trust, I just hope he's actually going to start to get the engine going after January, All we did is acquire Santos, Valibuena, and Mathis. We still need a #1-2 starting pitcher, a good LF, and a protection bat for Bautista (It's funny because if Beltran had no problem with the AstroTurf, then he would have been our good LF, plus protection bat)