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Well, I've been thinking about this for a while, modding MVP 2005 into a historical simulation of an old season,

Ideally I would like to make a simulation of an old style season with no wildcard or even divisional play, unfortunately I haven't found a way to disable the wildcard in dynasty play

So why not the supposed first year of wildcard play - the world series that never was - 1994 - The year of the expos or the yankees?

So I've been thinking about what it would take to mod MVP 05 into MVP 1994?

Teams -

Nationals renamed Expos

Anaheim renamed California

Done

pbp Audio for Expos not working at this stage

Expos Logos from TC could be used (with permission of course)

League Alignment -

The DRays and DBacks are 'disabled' so they do not appear in any league just like the EA Legends teams

The Brewers are in the AL Central, Tigers in the AL East

Schedule -

I am currently inputting the full planned 162 game 1994 schedule -

1 team done so far - 27 to go

Rosters - (Portraits/Audio)

I've been importing those players I can find in Total Classics and the 2005 rosters into a 1994 MLB Roster, many adjustments would have to be made for age - position career stats - salaries and team budgets

We could put some of the 93-94 draft picks in A maybe

I'm filling the rest of the spots at this stage with "blank players".

And of course permission will needed to use the TC players & portraits-audio in the 94 roster.

All Star Game -

The Lineups for the 94 game wil be easy to add to the game

but does anyone know how to move the game from Detroit to Pittsburgh?

Ballparks

The Vet, Astrodome, Olympic, Cinergy, Jack Murphy/Qualcomm

already exist in the game in varying degrees of accuracy

Three Rivers and others would still need to be created although that is well out of my skill range.

I don't know if it is possible to change the default park for a team i.e the vet for the phillies - of course it can be changed in the game startup

Uniforms

Obviously a lot of uniforms are already in the game and the much better ones made for Total classics could be used with permission.

Playoffs

I've simmed seasons using the 05 schedule and had no problems or crashes with playoffs and the offseason, I expect the same when i have finished the 94 sched.

Anyway this is what I've come up with so far

Just putting it out there to see if any other modders are interested in this idea.

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It's funny, because a few months back, MarkB, paulw and I were considering a 1955-56 season mod for MVP. I love TC, but I still think it would be best to do one whole season.

I would love to get a wide-range of support for this, since it should be do-able.

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I should mention that Three Rivers, Fulton County, Busch and Riverfront should pretty much be a breeze, however the difficulty arises with the west coast parks. Reverting Oakland Alameda to the 1994 level would be difficult, but possible, however making the Big A and Candlestick would be considerably harder. Jack Murphy Stadium would need the 1998 revisions lopped off, and we'd need to create the Kingdome, though we dodged a bullet with regards to the 1992 Astrodome revision. Fenway would need the green monster seats removed, no big deal, though US Cellular would require a bit of work. The other huge issue, of course, is Mile High, which would be horrible to have to create, as the modifications required to either Dolphin Stadium or Jack Murphy / Vet would be considerable.

The main issue, of course, is the Devil Rays / Arizona problem. If we can make it so that these two teams are staffed with only single-a players and only play each other 162 times a year, then we're set, otherwise we're in trouble.

Honestly, I think it would be more interesting to do something a little further back in time. We have everything but Comiskey done for a < 1955 version, and we'd just need KC Municipal and 2 of the 3 interim stadiums (Sick's and LA Wrigley Field, since LA Coliseum is completed) for a 1955-1961 mod.

1968 would be interesting, because it was the year of the pitcher, and right before the influx of most of the horrid cookie cutters. So, I guess if it comes down to it, i'd go for 1955 or 1968, since those are the most interesting for me.

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Woah, unis already! awesome!

There's no problem with the D-Rays/DBacks (Fingers crossed), they have no games in the 94 schedule and do not appear in any division so you'll never have to play them

- the adjustments i've made mean the game treats them as a 'non-franchise' team - like the mvp heroes team - however the teams minor league affiliates still play in their normal divisions as I didn't want to break anything in the minors

in fact Players in those minor teams can still get called up to the big league club only they have no games to play there :)

I'll staff both clubs with low attribute non-players anyway though.

I was thinking in relation to doing an older pre-60s season with no wildcard/divisions - The Texas League east(NL) west (AL) in AA could somehow be used to emulate the no divison/wildcard 144-game era - however it is a split season though

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I also feel that past seasons would be a wonderful direction for MVPMods. I would certainly contribute to these efforts in anyway I can. I for one think "61" is a must season (and have most of those team rosters already done - and would be willing to complete what is missing) but certainly agree to the merits of 55, 56, 68 and 94. I would be willing to make complete league team rosters for any 1960-1969 season anyone cares to undertake.

I can't speak for the entire Total Classics crew but I think this is precisely why we created Total Classics - to generate interest so others would expand on Old Time Classic baseball for the enhanced enjoyment of all.

Great Idea!

Don

New Orleans

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I'd actually appreciate a 90's mod version rather than the TC, only because I have a hard time identifying with older eras. If you can make it where we can play a full season, I'd love to do that. Was 1994 just a hypothetical year or the year you actually will use? It is a unique year to choose in the 90s because it was the season of what might have been. If you pick any other year in the 90s, you probably won't have a good of a reason as 94. Go for it. I'm ready to DL now!

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Ok, after several hours I have finished inputting all 2269 scheduled games of the 94 season into the schedule. I've run several sims and had no problems so far using the dback/dray-free schedule - which along with the edited .loc files is attached to this post for anyone interested.

In the rosters There are many players in the minors from 05 they have to be deleted along with generic 'blank' placeholder players filling up spots on the major league team until those teams get done.

So to anyone who wants to help make any of these 1994 teams or players - your mvpedit contribution is welcome :)

Then after that we can get to sorting out the pretty things like uniforms and stadiums.

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I'm now going through every team adding players from TCand MVP 03-05 and noting down those that need to be created - so far I've done the AL East -

So if anyone wants to create any of these players please do, post the .mep mvpedit player files in this thread if you like

I expect to have a rough draft working copy of the 94 rosters ready by tomorrow to test with the .loc files and schedule above.

BAL

#2 Pitcher Ben McDonald

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=mcdonbe01

Pitcher Mike Oquist

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=oquismi01

Relief Alan Mills

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=millsal01

Closer Lee Smith

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=smithle02

Relief Mark Eichhorn

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=eichhma01

Relief Mark Williamson

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=willima05

Catcher Chris Hoiles

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=hoilech01

Catcher Jeff Tackett

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=tackeje01

OF Brady Anderson

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=anderbr01

3B Leo Gomez

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=gomezle02

OF Jeffrey Hammonds

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=hammoje01

BOS

3B Scott Cooper

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=coopesc01

SS John Valentin

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=valenjo02

2B Tim Naehring

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=naehrti01

OF Lee Tinsley

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=tinslle01

#3 Pitcher Joe Hesketh

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=heskejo01

#4 Pitcher Danny Darwin

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=darwida01

Relief Chris Howard

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=howarch02

Relief Greg Harris

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=harrigr01

Relief Scott Bankhead

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=bankhsc01

Relief Tony Fossas

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=fossato01

Closer Ken Ryan

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl....php?p=ryanke01

DET

#4 Pitcher John Doherty

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=doherjo02

Relief Joe Boever

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=boevejo01

Relief Mike Gardiner

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=gardimi01

OF Tony Phillips

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=phillto02

OF Junior Felix

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=felixju01

C Chad Kreuter

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=kreutch01

OF Juan Samuel

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=samueju01

NYY

#2 Pitcher Jim Abbott

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=abbotji01

#3 Pitcher Melido Perez

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=perezme01

#5 Pitcher Scott Kamieniecki

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=kamiesc01

Closer Steve Howe

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl....php?p=howest01

Relief Xavier Hernandez

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=hernaxa01

Relief Paul Gibson

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=gibsopa01

Catcher Mike Stanley

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=stanlmi02

DH/RF Danny Tartabull

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=tartada01

OF Luis Polonia

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=polonlu01

2B Pat Kelly

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=kellypa03

SS Randy Velarde

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=velarra01

c Matt Nokes

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=nokesma01

OF Daryl Boston

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=bostoda01

TOR

Catcher Randy Knorr

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=knorrra01

OF Mike Huff

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl....php?p=huffmi01

OF Darnell Coles

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=colesda01

2B Domingo Cedeno

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=cedendo01

Closer Darren Hall

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl....php?p=hallda01

Relief Tony Castillo

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=castito02

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i have a baseball card of michael jordan playin' for the white sox, it was in the 94. he has to be there, lol

i cant wait

I don't think Jordan ever actually played for the White Sox but he was in their spring training and played for their AAA team.

EDIT: he played for their AA team in '94 and retired in spring training of '95. My friend has his White Sox jersey.

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