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Just wanted to post a public thank you! to Dennis. He sent me a very clear and concise primer on using the music capabilities within The Show. . . with screenshots! Thanks, Dennis!

Dennis, PM sent.

Ok, I realize that this discussion of The Show for the PS3 is an odd thing to have in a thread of MLB2K12 for the PC. In fact, until I was logging in ust now, I figured I'd thank Dennis in this thread and then send him a PM with my thoughts and questions about the show. First, Thanks, Dennis! I found the editor for attributes. That said, I'm gonna post the rest of my thoughts here because it'ss possible that other baseball afficianados might do what I did; to whit, buy a PS3 for no other reason than to play a baseball game that is still being actively supported by a company (Sony) that often outperforms its competition in terms of customer support. First, I had numerous issues getting my hardware hooked up. The PS3 uses either HDMI output for sound and audio, or an "AVI" output that uses phono plugs (also called RCA jacks) - one for video and two for stereo. My monitor is DVI, thus no audio. And if you hook up the PS3 HDMI output through an adapter to a DVI monitor and then use the PS3'ss AVI output to connect to audio, the operating system freaks out. It expects both audio and video to go out through one or the other. You CAN get around that, but it took me and my daughter's boyfriend 20 minutes on Google to figure out how. That wasn't the only issue. During wireless network setup, there comes a point after you've entered your SSID for the network where you're offered prompts to either edit the SSID you just entered or cancel out completely. You are not told that you have to hit the right button on the DPAD to continue on. Minor, but very frustrating, 'til you go find the ONE Google link that points out this glitch. PS3 has been around long enough to have fixed this sort of nonsense. Now, the game: Fine graphics, realistic player and ball movement. Sliders that let you "goose" the player and/or CPU batting, pitching, fielding, baserunning just like 2K12 does and better than EA did. And there seem to be a lot more "ball routes" for both hits and outs, so you don't have so many incredible running catches in the outfield because the random number generator decided that you hit the ball well, but it's still an out. And runners stretching for that extra base seem to have a more realistically tougher time of doing it than either EA or 2KSports implemented. There's also the easy, medium and complicated verson of pitching, hitting, baserunning and fielding so that you can either punch a button or two, or really get into the hand-eye coordination thing. The AI also seems deeper than either EA's or 2KSports'. Both in pinch-hitting and in handling relievers, it made more (and better) moves than either of the other two games - though I'm only basing that on 3 full games so far. Now, menus. Probably because I played EA Sports 2005 for 7 years, it became my standard. MLB 2K12 is pretty good at presenting historical statistics AND the data you want at your fingertips during the critical hitter vs. pitcher matchups. What I've come to expect is to hit one button to show me the lefty-righty matchups coming up, with contact and power numbers, hit another button to see what the current batter has done, and maybe another button to quickly check the status of my bullpen. I'm brand-new to The Show, but I'm hitting one heck of a lot more buttons and getting less info in those critical situations. In a nutshell, it seems like Sony decided there's only one path through the tortuous menu system that leads you to lefty-righty info, and even in the middle of a game, the single-key choices you have to inspect the current batter-pitcher situation only show you a very small part of the equation. I won't go into depth, since it'd get confusing, but it seems like Sony went even further than 2KSports with the attitude, "We showed that data over there in that menu path, why should we make the same data available at the touch of a button in the middle of a game?" I realize there are memory issues, etc., but you get the impression that even though the programmers were careful to get the data and the physics right, they never went through the Zen thingy we do when we're actuallly playing an entire season, but need to focus down easily into a particular situation with as much info as we can get with as little hassle as possible. As just one example of that shortcoming, the key you hit to pause the game during pitcher vs. batter shows you the opposing lineup, but does NOT put the batting average or even the HANDEDNESS of the players on that display! (And there is plenty of room on the screen for that info.) The voice-overs are ok, maybe not quite as good as 2K12. (I'm in the S.F. Bay Area, so I thought 2005's Kuiper and Krukow were great.) The edit screen s you can get to for players (which is a little hard to find) gives you a HECK of lot of data points to set shoe colors, equipment, and all sorts of eye-candy choices for players - far more than MLB2K12 out of the box. I was disappionted, however that you can only edit bout half or 2/3rds of the attribute data that affects how a player performs. The Show also is LOT more stringent about contracts, free-agency, 40-man rosters, waivers, etc., than MLB2K12. You are NOT going to be able to blithely move some guy between Triple-A and the majors at your whim. Fortunately, they include a lot of info in their help files about all the byzantine baseball rules governing contracts, but it's a hassle that you can't turn off. The game also seemed a little "arcadey" to me, with it's awards of XP for in game activities, trophies for accomplishments and even a bonus for guessing the next pitch. Maybe many follks like that, but as a Franchise nerd, it seemed a littly foofey. The game has a very good analogue to MyPlayer mode in 2K12 and a pretty nifty online "card game" sort of competition. There are lots of musical tracks for walk-up music, etc. You can record fan chants on a player-by-player basis. Sony is obviously paying attention to both the die-hard number crunchers and the modders. I've only had a console for 24 hours, so I have no idea what the "community" is like, or what support it can provide. Now, Dennis - or anyone! - a couple of questions: Can you add your own MP3 or other types of sound clips to the music available in game? This is the 1st game that did it well enough to make me wish that I could easily add my own sound clips. Saving games,. . . WHAT A PAIN! Every time you change a piece of data and then go to some other menu, the game wants you to save what you've done. Fine. BUT, the save is done by saving your team and date as the identifier. So in a very short while, you have 20 Franchise files named Giants06281313345, etc. Yes, that means each save is a new file name, so you have to keep going back and deleting the individually named files as you are almost forced to create new ones with every edit. IF THERE IS A WAY TO JUST GIVE A FRANCHISE A SINGLE NAME AND HAVE EACH SAVE JUST OVERWRITE THE PRIOR FILE, I WOULD LOVE to hear it. Enough griping. I have 6 more days to return this PS3 (and The Show) to Gamestop for a full, no questions asked refund. Fair enough.

Dennis, that's exactly what I'm looking for! Can you please tell me under what menu you found this? I thought I'd tried every menu choice and haven't seen that screen. And thanks!

Thanks for the responses. but I realized I forgot to ask an even more important question: can you edit player attributes like control, power, potential, etc., in MLB The Show? Looking through the menus, I've found a player edit choice that lets you edit a player's home run swing, miss swing, and other animations. But I've seen no menu that let's me change, say, Posey's "Contact vs. Right Handed Pitchers," for example. A tip I'd read online suggested that to get the max contract for a player was to edit him so he was 99 Overall, then offer him a contract. This led me to believe that you could edit batting and pitching attributes. Am I wrong?

My daughter is back from a year of teaching in Japan. This makes me tremendously happy, because I love her and really enjoy her company. It's a disaster, because I've ben using her PC to play MLB2K12 and she wants it back. My PC is an old pre- PCI Express bus machine that cannot support the graphics cards that use shader 2.0, etc, so it cannot run MLB2K12. (Yes, I've tried.) I have never owned a console, like the XBOX or PS3. But I have an opportunity to get a PS3 under warranty from a local Gamestop with the MLB2K12 disc AND the MLB The Show disc for a very reasonable price, plus a warranty and a "no questions asked" return policy. I can afford this used PS3, whereas I just CANNOT afford a new PC at this tme. Questions: Has anyone here used the PS3 version of either MLB2K12 or MLB The Show? Can you somehow export a .ROS or .XFG file from the PS3 to a PC in order to use Ty's editor or Redit? I would think not, because I'd imagine the file formats are different, but I use Ty's editor a lot, so I thought I'd ask. Alternatively, is there anything like Ty's editor or Redit available for the PS3? For example, Ty's editor and Redit allow you to change a player's primary position and edit his energy, while the in-game editor does not. On a more general note, does anyone have any experience with comparing the PC version of MLB 2K12, with MLB2K12 on the PS3 or MLB The Show on the PS3? What are the up or downsides of running a franchise in either of those games on the PS3 as opposed to MLB2K12 on the PC, which is what I'm used to? Thanks for your thoughts!

Well, this bothers me, but why am I not surprised? It's very possible I'll need to get a new PC in order to keep playing 2K12, and now it sounds as if I won't be able to successfully load the game on the new platform. Has anyone else had any success moving 2K12 to a new PC in, say, the last 4 months? Specifically, reusing their key?

KC, have you had any luck resolving this? I may be about to lose the computer I play 2K12 on to my daughter who is returning from Japan, so I could perhaps give you my key, but it may be "no longer valid" on any new PC as well. The support for this game is rather abysmal.

I have played dynasty mode without any problems. I had no problem installing the latest patch that gets rid of the "have to set computer date back to August 1st" problem. But I know of no way to start in 2013 historical stats wth the game as it is. I think you'd have to start in 2012 and let the game sim 2012 and THEN start in 2013. THAT said, there is a guy named Vlad_Zola_Jr who has written a very in-depth editor for MLB2k12. Look in the MOD PREVIEWS forum for his REDITOR II thread. I'm disappointed that his scripting language seemss to have a serious problem that no here has been able to address, and that he's a student so response-time is sometimes lagging. BUT, several people here seem to like his editor and it may be able to do what you want.

Strawberry; I don't know what that box is to he right of the jersey name is. You're referring to Ty's editor, right? 1) Have you tried this: In Ty's editor, zero out all the player's Contract fields. Then, in game, go to GM, MANAGE ROSTERS, ROSTER, BUTTON 2 on the player, and then RELEASE PLAYER. 2) If that doesn't work, try giving the player a name and all other stats in Ty's editor, the retry the above. 3) If THAT doesn't work, try going into Ty's editor; choose your team; select that player; then in the TEAM field under the GENERAL tab, enter a team you want to stick with this loser. (I suggest a low minor team.) You may first have to go to that team and release someone so that the target team only has 24 payers before you try the move. I've had a problem similar to the one you describe here or in your post below about getting stuck with a pitcher from Houston's draft. I don't remember the steps I used t fix it, but I *did* get it fixed. i think you might have the best luck if you FIRST get rid of the player on whatever other team he is on. "Get rid of" is probably best defined as using Ty's editor, uncheck the NAMES LOCKED box, give the guy on that OTHER team an unused name, zeroing out his contract in Ty's editor, then going ingame and releasing him from that other team. *** In other words, if the player iss currently on two teams, do step 1) above to that player on the OTHER team first, then do it to the guy on your team, realizing that you may have to rename him. **** Sorry to sound so confusing. GOOD LUCK!

Ok. I get that we have to run the system date back to August 1st, 2012, to play MLB 2K12. That's just a silly thing the coders overlooked. I get that there are lots of glitches in MyPlayer. That's an innovative thing that the coders didn't have enough QA people to debug. I even get that the development company decided that they couldn't make a product that would be good enough to make a profit for them this year - which is a pretty damning thing after all these years of development. . . I mean, you can't make a BASEBALL game that will sell to the millions of PC users after all these years? Of our national past-time? But what really gets me is the dead-end of the MLB Today and MLB Season Today side of the product. They are just totally dead now in this product. When all is said and done, that was just a whiz-bang, "feel the moment" side-show that had nothing to do with statistics, baseball history, or the abiding connection many baseball fans have with the game we love. It was the hoopla and glitz of the "SEE IT NOW! BE THERE!" style of marketing that attempts to promote hype over substance. But if you go to Out Of The Park Baseball, you'll see that, instead of insisting on so many bells and whistles to sell a $60 game each year, they actually include historical data that allows you to play almost ANY historical year of baseball without paying year after year for the privilege. And the data they provide is in a standard, "comma separated value" format. (If you don't know what that is, it's a data file standard that lots of baseball stat companies provide their raw data in. You can edit, or read or print the data very simply with standard Windows or Mac editors.) And that's a German company! Now, I grant you that the OOTP baseball game doesn't have the cool graphics and arcade-style gameplay of MLB2K12 or The Show, or even of MVP by EA. But it is a very serious simulator and database for baseball fans. And it is fun and engrossing. I've only played the demo (several times) and I am not a paid shill. But it galls and surprises me that a German company puts more heart into a baseball game for the PC than any American company does this year. This almost goes double for the editors! Ty's editor was great, but we lost him. And Vlad - the Russki! - can't be convinced to get his product up to speed with instructions and support! But OOTP, by supporting the simple CSV (comma sepated value) format, and providing interfaces to faces, stadium and other graphic details, is just as moddable as any American product. Anyway, as I say, I haven't bought it, but there is a free demo for OOTP. As usual,you should go to their forums and see what the people using the product are saying. IMHO, baseball, 2Ksports and yes, even EA should be ashamed that they all dropped the ball by not providing us millions of Americans with PCs an opportunity to play the best, most recent version of our national past-time with them. It's not enough to say that we didn't spend the money on the game. THEY didn't spend the time to learn our passion. Google OOTP and see what they've done. Granted - AGAIN - the glitzy arcade stuff isn't there. But the history, the data and the attention to detail IS!

You can't adjust your spending cap directly. What that is, is the money you have available. What you CAN do is cheat. You can go into the GM mode and adjust a player's salary. For example, if you have a guy that is scheduled to earn $10 million for 3 years, you can dellete two of those years, then set his salary to ONE million, then add 2 more years at ONE million. The program wil then automatically recalculate your money available.

sask3m, thanks! In the Scripts subdirectory of your REDITOR II directory, open a new file with Notepad (or whatever.) Cut and paste the following into it: vay yapali Energize; {Energize all the Giants} ulsh i: int; !!Cycle variable puschla i valli 0 ran Players_Num taran tu !!Here we cycle through all the players puschla Players.TeamID 10 = PULSAN Players.Energy 99 := ; veschle veschle. Go ahead and save the file as Energize.TURK (you willl probably have to use the Windows rename to get the exxtension to be .TURK.) Then run Reditor, load a franchise or roster and make sure a Giant or 2 has a different energy than 99 or 255. Then click on the TURK tab at the top of the screen. Your Energize routine should show up. Click on it and either watch the Giants' energy levels all go to 99, or get an error message if the live version is like the demo. Thanks again!

Every time my shortstop fields a ball, the announcer says, "Number two. . . " That's because my shortstop is Jurickson Profar - a player who is in the original 2012 Roster.ROS file, but - as Vlad's REDITOR makes clear, doesn't have a voice clip associated with his 1st or last name. I want to buy Vlad's editor so I can change his name to something *close* that CAN be pronounced. Meanwhile, I also want to run a TURK script that will test if the team is the Giants, then set the energy to 99. In "TURK," that line should be: Players.TeamID 10 = PULSAN Players.Energy 99 := ; (Actually, I want to test if they are Giants AND Catchers. But I can't even make the simple IF work.) But I've tried this MANY ways in the REDITOR demo that Vlad made available and it will not work. See here, where I note that Vlad's answer does not work in the demo program: http://www.mvpmods.c...pic=54517&st=40 I WANT to get Vlad's program! Many of you say it helps you with your work. But I have 3 problems. 1) He was around for a couple of weeks and we haven't heard back from him since, despite a LOT of questions about his REDITOR on the preview forum. 2) He's charging money. 3) I could forget and forgive all that if I could just make a damned IF statement work in the demo version of REDITOR! PLEASE!: Have any of you found that IF statements don't work in the demo version, but DO work in the released version of REDITOR with the baseball data? At least have ANY of you made IF satements work in TURK wih your copies of REDITOR? I find it amazing that Vlad is charging for his editor when there is not ONE WORD of documentatoin about the TURK WIZARD. But that's ok. If someone could just whow me that IF statements really work, I'd happil pay the price. Thanks in advance. (I'm wondering. After you download the demo, and before yu load your baseball franchise, do you have to somehow tell the demo that you are ooking at basseball info and not basketball?)

Auto baserunning is off.