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48 Indians, that good?


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I did try to do a search on this topic but it is very difficult to pinpoint a specific discussion about a specific team in tc3. Sorry.

Were these guys really as good as portrayed in tc3?

I have never pitched agains a team with more "red squares"!!!!

Seriously these guys are amazing. Any pitch I throw for a strike is

clobbered. Bit overblown seems to me.

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Pos Player			  Ag   G   AB	R	H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  BB  SO   BA	OBP   SLG  SB  CS  GDP HBP  SH  SF IBB  OPS+


---+-------------------+--+----+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+----+-----+-----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+----+


C   Jim Hegan		   27  144  472   60  117  21  6  14   61  48   74  .248  .317  .407   6   3  10   0   4		   94


1B *Eddie Robinson	  27  134  493   53  125  18  5  16   83  36   42  .254  .307  .408   1   0  13   2   9		   92


2B  Joe Gordon		  33  144  550   96  154  21  4  32  124  77   68  .280  .371  .507   5   2  16   3   3		  135


3B  Ken Keltner		 31  153  558   91  166  24  4  31  119  89   52  .297  .395  .522   2   1  23   1   8		  146


SS  Lou Boudreau		30  152  560  116  199  34  6  18  106  98	9  .355  .453  .534   3   2  15   2  16		  165


OF *Dale Mitchell	   26  141  608   82  204  30  8   4   56  45   17  .336  .383  .431  13  18   9   2   1		  119


OF *Larry Doby		  24  121  439   83  132  23  9  14   66  54   77  .301  .384  .490   9   9   8   5   2		  134


OF *Thurman Tucker	  30   83  242   52   63  13  2   1   19  31   17  .260  .347  .343  11   2   3   1   0		   86




	Allie Clark		 25   81  271   43   84   5  2   9   38  23   13  .310  .364  .443   0   2  12   0   4		  117


   *Wally Judnich	   31   79  218   36   56  13  3   2   29  56   23  .257  .411  .372   2   3   5   1   6		  112


   *Hank Edwards		29   55  160   27   43   9  2   3   18  18   18  .269  .346  .406   1   1   2   1   0		  102


	Johnny Berardino	31   66  147   19   28   5  1   2   10  27   16  .190  .328  .279   0   1   6   3   2		   64


	Joe Tipton		  26   47   90   11   26   3  0   1   13   4   10  .289  .333  .356   0   0   0   2   1		   86


	Bob Kennedy		 27   66   73   10   22   3  2   0	5   4	6  .301  .338  .397   0   0   1   0   3		   98


   *Hal Peck			31   45   63   12   18   3  0   0	8   4	8  .286  .328  .333   1   0   0   0   1		   78


	Pat Seerey		  25   10   23	7	6   0  0   1	6   7	8  .261  .433  .391   0   0   2   0   1		  123


	Ray Boone		   24	6	5	0	2   1  0   0	1   0	1  .400  .400  .600   0   0   0   0   0		  167


	Al Rosen			24	5	5	0	1   0  0   0	0   0	2  .200  .200  .200   0   0   1   0   0			8


	Ray Murray		  30	4	4	0	0   0  0   0	0   0	3  .000  .000  .000   0   0   0   0   0		 -100




   *Bob Lemon		   27   52  119   20   34   9  0   5   21   8   23  .286  .331  .487   0   0   0   0   2		  119


	Bob Feller		  29   44   95	1	9   2  0   0	3   1   39  .095  .113  .116   0   0   1   1   9		  -38


   *Gene Bearden		27   37   90   14   23   3  0   2   14   5	9  .256  .295  .356   0   0   2   0   2		   75


   #Steve Gromek		28   38   41	3	6   1  0   0	1   3	7  .146  .205  .171   0   0   0   0   1			2


   *Sam Zoldak		  29   23   36	0	5   1  0   0	0   1	6  .139  .162  .167   0   0   2   0   2		  -11


	Satchel Paige	   41   21   23	0	2   0  0   0	0   0	5  .087  .087  .087   0   0   0   0   2		  -53


	Bob Muncrief		32   21   18	0	2   0  0   0	0   2	6  .111  .200  .111   0   0   1   0   2		  -15


	Don Black		   31   18   15	1	3   0  0   0	0   0	3  .200  .200  .200   0   0   0   0   1			8


	Ed Klieman		  30   44   14	0	2   0  0   0	0   2	9  .143  .250  .143   0   0   0   0   0			7


	Russ Christopher	30   45	6	1	0   0  0   0	0   2	3  .000  .250  .000   0   0   0   0   2		  -29


	Al Gettel		   30	5	3	1	0   0  0   0	0   0	0  .000  .000  .000   0   0   0   0   0		 -100


   *Bill Kennedy		27	6	3	1	2   0  0   0	0   1	0  .667  .750  .667   0   0   0   0   1		  283


	Lyman Linde		 27	3	2	0	0   0  0   0	0   0	1  .000  .000  .000   0   0   0   0   0		 -100


---+-------------------+--+----+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+----+-----+-----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+----+


	TOTAL  team age - 28.6  156 5446  840 1534 242 54 155  801 646  575  .282  .358  .431  54  44 132  24  85		  120


	Rank among 8 AL teams		  1	3	1   4  5   1		4	1	 1	 2	 2   3   3					


---+-------------------+--+----+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+----+-----+-----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+----+


						Ag   G   AB	R	H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  BB  SO   BA	OBP   SLG  SB  CS  GDP HBP  SH  SF IBB  OPS+
   Player			  Ag  G	ERA   W   L  SV  GS  GF  CG SHO   IP	 H	R   ER   BB   HR  SO   BFP  WP HBP BK IBB ERA+


---+-------------------+--+---+------+---+---+--+---+---+---+---+------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+--+---+---+


SP  Bob Feller		  29  44   3.56  19  15  3  38   3  18   2  280.3  255  123  111  116  20  164 1186   2   2  0	 114


SP  Bob Lemon		   27  43   2.82  20  14  2  37   2  20  10  293.7  231  104   92  129  12  147 1214   3   3  0	 144


SP *Gene Bearden		27  37   2.43  20   7  1  29   4  15   6  229.7  187   72   62  106   9   80  935   5   3  0	 167


SP *Sam Zoldak		  29  23   2.81   9   6  0  12   5   4   1  105.7  104   37   33   24   6   17  428   0   0  1	 145


SP  Don Black		   31  18   5.37   2   2  0  10   3   1   0   52.0   57   33   31   40   5   16  249   0   1  0	  76




CL  Russ Christopher	30  45   2.90   3   2 17   0  28   0   0   59.0   55   21   19   27   3   14  255   1   0  0	 140


RP  Ed Klieman		  30  44   2.60   3   2  4   0  18   0   0   79.7   62   26   23   46   3   18  330   1   2  0	 157


RP  Steve Gromek		28  38   2.84   9   3  2   9  10   4   1  130.0  109   52   41   51  10   50  546   3   6  0	 143


RP  Satchel Paige	   41  21   2.48   6   1  1   7   5   3   2   72.7   61   21   20   22   2   43  298   1   1  2	 164


RP  Bob Muncrief		32  21   3.98   5   4  0   9   8   1   1   72.3   76   37   32   31   8   24  309   0   0  0	 102




   *Bill Kennedy		27   6  11.12   1   0  0   3   0   0   0   11.3   16   14   14   13   0   12   62   0   0  0	  37


	Lyman Linde		 27   3   5.40   0   0  0   0   1   0   0   10.0	9	6	6	4   1	0   41   0   0  0	  75


	Al Gettel		   30   5  17.61   0   1  0   2   1   0   0	7.7   15   15   15   10   2	4   50   0   1  0	  23


	Mike Garcia		 24   1   0.00   0   0  0   0   0   0   0	2.0	3	0	0	0   0	1	9   0   0  0		


	Butch Wensloff	  32   1  10.80   0   1  0   0   1   0   0	1.7	2	2	2	3   1	2   10   0   0  0	  38


	Ernest Groth		26   1   9.00   0   0  0   0   1   0   0	1.0	1	1	1	2   0	0	6   0   0  0	  45


	Les Webber		  33   1  40.50   0   0  0   0   0   0   0	0.7	3	3	3	1   0	1	6   0   0  0	  10


---+-------------------+--+---+------+---+---+--+---+---+---+---+------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+--+---+---+


	TOTAL  team age - 29.2 156   3.22  97  58 30 156  90  66  26 1409.0 1246  568  504  628  82  595 5934  16  19  3	 126


	Rank among 8 AL teams		   1   1   8  1		   3   1	  1	1	1		 3   2	3

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They really must have been a bunch of "prema donnas"!!

To lose with this kind of plate presence and pitching!

Amazing.

Thanks. I love learning something.

You also have to learn to read and process information properly. Go to this page right here and read about those 1948 "prima donnas." They were the best hitting and pitching team in the A.L. that year.

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Haven't been on the site much but caught a topic I really like in this one. The '48 Indians underperformed in Wins (97) compared to what they should have done according to their stats. According to Total Baseball they should have won about 105 games. The 54 Indians who won 111 games statistically should have won about 99 or 100. Bottom line - with the talent they had this was the best Indian team ever. Would need to check how they rank all-time but my guess is probably in the top 10 of all teams.

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Its just interesting how their "red zones" are more forgiving/prolific

than the '27 Yankees and others.

Hey, I'm not saying there is something wrong here I just asked a question!!!

Don't be so damn defensive!!

These Braves had a reputation for second guessing any type of authority. Maybe they had a right too. All I know is that their stats, as represented in 2k5, seem to give them an advantage that may not represent their true ability in a total classics sense.

Just an opinion. Sorry.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Modders: Hey , first I searched my TC3 teams and couldn't find 2004 Minnesota Twins, then I search the site for an explanation but found nothing. Is this a TC3 version on a MVP 2004 and would n't show up on a 2005 version or what? How can I find and play with the '04 Twins and see how good Luis Rivas is? Thanks

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the 2005 Twins with Luis Rivas do just as much damage -- but it all depends on who's holding the joypad ;)

And I can vouch for that. That SOB Rivas hits like Babe Ruth against me. It's crazy.

jchorneau wrote:

Modders: Hey , first I searched my TC3 teams and couldn't find 2004 Minnesota Twins, then I search the site for an explanation but found nothing. Is this a TC3 version on a MVP 2004 and would n't show up on a 2005 version or what? How can I find and play with the '04 Twins and see how good Luis Rivas is? Thanks

Play with the Twins with the current 2005 rosters. Rivas is nothing special, the guy's a banjo hitter but for some reason when fuzz uses the Twins, Rivas hits and hits and hits. The *&*^

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An incredible modder + banjo hitter = "*&*^" out of the ball?

....hmm...........something doesn't add up, check his bat, probably corked!!!

No it's not corked. In one game, after Rivas hit his second homer against me, Fuzz showed me Rivas' stats. They were not pumped up at all. Rivas is just a lucky bum.

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Okay, i get it, "but it all depends on who's holding the joypad " ??? Not luck, but some skill and knowledge, right not luck? Luck is some random thing (something they say when someone can't figure out the odds). Convince me that Rivas, computer generated player (in the game), will hit 99% of the time, or what, only against y'all playing against Fuzz.

If I go and play with Rivas, I find out he's "just a banjo hitter." So Fuzz is using his skill at playing the game, and he's figured how to use the player Rivas in the game? But if Fuzz plays with another team without Rivas, he cant produce the same results. I think I get it.

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An incredible modder + banjo hitter = "*&*^" out of the ball?

....hmm...........something doesn't add up, check his bat, probably corked!!!

corked?

only way to cork your bat is to screwed with the fly ball, ground ball, line drive, & HR percentages.

if I remember corectly they is no way to tell in the game, just in MVPedit or notepad

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