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Veesmack

The Thrill Is Back!

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Homer, your Rick Helling is great. I try to make the the old MVP faces like their originals. Unfortunately there is no hi res version of the 2004 faces. But Krawhitham has his 2X 2003 faces. I have an XBox copy of MVP '04 to get the 2X faces. But I never got an Xbox or one with the mod to let you look at the files. I never got to use the 2X files. If anybody knows how to do this let me know if I can access it on a computer. I always thought I knew all faces MVP released. Like Vaughn is '03, I dunno why I don't even have on the list. Helling I feel is more forgiving not knowing he's on there. Vaughn, yeah. I'll totally make him from '03. I was planning on definitely doing Edgar Martinez, Robin Ventura, Henderson, Franco and now I'll add Vaughn, too. Even though people can make their own versions including me, I like knowing that these faces were originally in the series. It's all nostalgia for me :)

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I wish I knew how to get them off xbox. I know it can be done, so someone knows how. i didn't know he had 2x from 2003. i thought the 2x pack he had was from 05. there must be a gold mine in the 03 ones. i can't wait to see some of those faces. here are some of those that i've made already.

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I can't for the life of me find that attachments button for uploads in the messenger. But it's okay. I'm not sure if I want to redo the Tony Lazzeri. I was about to see what I could do and I just didn't want to do it. He had both the downloads I believe. the 2003 faces being hi res and the '04 one side style make the textures a great resource.. I think he just didn't have '04 but did have the modded Xbox. I remember contacting him and he told me there was no way. But that was several years ago.

As for the the '03 ball players, I think I'll work on another this weekend. I can't really do a lot of them quickly. It's a long process that isn't too different than doing a life drawing except using my mouse as my tool. I constantly look back and forth and make adjustments . I hope to get them done though definitely before the season is over.

But I got around to making my first 2011 face. I chose Buster Posey. Thanks a lot, man. I couldn't have done this without you. I haven't done anything in Oedit yet! But the texture took forever because I wanted it to be good first one.

I also made the audio for Buster Posey. If there already is an audio, please let me know. The way Kuiper says Buster doesn't sound right in the tone although it Buster sounds right. I guess it's better than nothing.

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yeah he's a tough one since he doesn't have any real distinguishing features.

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I don't think he was too difficult actually. With a face like his, I look for spacial relationship and proportions between different areas of the face. But with him I just started off using a good shape to work with. So far the last three players I've made, I've been able to cut down on time in oedit. I focus solely more time on the texture. Honestly, I think I spent more time on the audio for Buster than I did in Oedit. It sounds better now but doesn't sound perfect. I got Kuiper/Krukow saying Po-See instead of Po-Zee which I noticed and have to fix. I've also decided to do his 2010 hockey mask and catcher gear. Why not? The City's first World Series and making the gear seems more fun.

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I was going toward more this photo as the main reference. I used his 2011 headshot to make it. post-15844-088660300 1311118814_thumb.pn

edit: 7:30PST

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So I went back into oedit. And did some more changes. I think the key thing for me is make subtle changes. Now off to watch the Giants and Dodgers play. Thanks Yankee4Life, a few hours later I realize that I need a picture just like the one you provide me.; I sometimes forget that using a pic while a player is smiling can mess things up if I'm using multiple pictures with some smiling and some not. That happened with Mel Ott. I had his jaw too long because the picture I was using had him smiling.; Other things that happen is smiling contorts the jaw and chin extending it a bit as well as widening the nose; I can't wait to work on the face some more tomorrow after a gig in the morning.

last edit: Just wanted to post yet another image. I think it's coming along. I'm gonna keep the mouth the way it is. I think it's not as wide a smile in the picture and not as small as his mouth can get. It's like in between.

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Nice, man....... Bravo.....

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Not that I'm anywhere near an expert, but what I see, and I'm sure you do too is a need for maybe the bridge of the nose to be narrower, and the distance between the bottom of the nose and the top of the lip to be a bit shorter. Otherwise, I think he'll be spot on!

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Good feedback man! I agree with you, so that's a good eye. The other thing is I would make the chin and mouth more narrow too. In his pic, he's smiling. If you look at the picture previously where he's not smiling, you can see he doesn't have a really wide mouth. your face takes most of the smile out, so I would shrink it a little. I'm loving this though! Finally getting a decent face for him.

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boy I tell you, if you ever want more challenges, here's a list of them that could use them:

Josh Hamilton

Juan Guzman

Allen Trammell

Bill Mazeroski

Bill Swift

Alex Fernandez

Curtis Granderson

Ian Kinsler

Craig Kimbrel

Clayton Kershaw

Cliff Lee

Jon Lester

Daniel Bard

Clay Buchholz

Brian Roberts

Shin Soo Choo

Mike Moustakas

Peter Bourjos

Michael Saunders

Wilson Ramos

Drew Storen

Tyler Clippard

Josh Johnson

Jon Jay

Madison Bumgarner

Daniel Hudson

Ian Kennedy

Troy Tulowitzki

Dexter Fowler

Bobby Thigpen

Bret Sagerhagen

Brian Downing

Bryan Harvey

Charlie Hayes

Curt Flood

Dale Murphy

David Cone

Derek Bell

Dizzy Dean

Don Baylor

Frank Tanana

Frank Viola

Gil Hodges

Howard Johnson

Hoyt Wilhelm

Jesse Barfield

John Kruk

Ken Hill

Lenny Dykstra

Mariano Duncan

Mark Langston

Matt Nokes

Mitch Willams

Phil PLantier

Randy Myers

Rick Aguilera

Rob Deer

Ryne Sandberg

Stan Musial

Tim Raines

Vince Coleman

Jim Abbott

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amazing, thats all i can say right now, still on par with the other elite cyberface makers.

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Jedinstvo, thanks man for pointing that out. I'm gonna do exactly what you said with the nose and that area between his mouth and nose. When I went to bed I liked the face a lot but there's no rush. I know I do it and I know other modders do it, too. When I think a face is finished I seldom go back and work on it.

Homer, I think we have like minds. I'd say about 90% of all the people you listed are players I have considered doing faces for. I attempted a Mark Langston and Jim Abbott before but the pictures were not usuable. I made a Gil Hodges a long time ago. I'll send it to you to look at later today (I'll PM you when I do). Again, it's one of my early faces.

Sesbb30, thanks man. Mainly, I think what has helped me is I have been making faces for NBA Live 98 when I stopped modding MVP years ago. It's funny. I stopped doing NBA Live 98 faces around 2000, then I picked it up again in 2006 til last fall. I was converting the faces for NBA Live 99 to 08 for NBA Live 98, too. It was like I still had the creativity but was somehow burned out in 2006 and switched from MVP to NBA Live 98. A huge reason was that it was simple. No oedit and a really good database editor. I made the whole WNBA, 66 college teams (home and away jerseys and also converted newer jerseys from newer NBA Live's for NBA Live 98. It was easy making courts too. If I was modding MVP I would have flunked out of college I believe. But I feel like playing NBA Live 98 is rather embarrassing now. It would have been better to not have stopped modding MVP if it didn't affect school. The graphics/gameplay engine are horribly outdated even though the textures are just good. It was nostalgic. now it seems like work in vain ( it doesn't have to be). MVP still looks and plays well

edit: A difference with the NBA Live 98 modding is I have never released any of the files after 2000. An example of the difference in challenge between the two games. I can make a complete team over night with at least eight players and court in NBA Live 98.. But to make the jerseys and at least 9 position players and one pitcher in MVP 05 takes a couple weeks at least for me.

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I wish some of you guys would take your talents to south beach...err MLB 2K11 :-D

I've probably used a lot of your mods back in the day but looking at this thread it's still impressive work! Favorite mod of all time, MVP 94. Amazing.

Anyway, I know exactly what you mean by the "thrill". Never was a big modder until this year when I started dishing out for 2K11. It's so much fun even though I'm basically never playing the game lol.

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I keep trying the 2k series games and always walk away unimpressed. if the show was on PC, i would be all over it. but they need to improve the 2k series if they intend it to be the only pc option.

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