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Not sure what the rules are on sharing this kind of stuff? If i should or even can? If not, that is fine, just as always trying to share what i been spending so much time on.

 

Not sure if i can just upload or just email them directly to people, because none of this is my original work.

 

 

1. (Less controversial)

I categorized all of Homers 492 faces from his last upload. What i mean is i separated them by decade pre-1970, 70's, (70's-80's), 80's, (80's-90's), 90's & 2000's.

This makes it easier to use, find, add or start a new mod with.

 

 

 

2. (Much more controversial) The 1993 Mod. To me this mod is great and has probably (I haven't installed all or played all of them), but just going on the ones I have.

This Mod has the most complete MiLB roster of any i have tried. Just about all 3 levels are complete with the 1993 minor league players, and if not, then all the future stars or call ups are all there.

Making it excellent to run a dynasty!

 

The only problem is faces were not a priority or permission was not given or just never added.

 

 

I have found and added over 90+ faces, readily available here for download @ MVP Mods.

 

Faces by Veesmack, Homer, Jogar84 and a host of others. Some are just updates when a far better one was available, others were created by me and the majority were new and never added, instead the players were using a generic 901-907 face. I gave all these guys a #, using the empty slots from #502-638

 

 

So, i am asking first what are the rules and 2nd is anyone even interested?

 

 

Dirtdog

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3 hours ago, Dirtdog said:

So, i am asking first what are the rules and 2nd is anyone even interested?

 

 

 

Dirtdog

 

Don't even try it. You need permission from each modder to do this. Someone many years ago wanted to make all the new stadiums (at least new at that time) into one big download. It was denied by the modders.

 

If Homer wants to separate his faces he will but naturally it does not hurt to ask. I don't speak for him. I just know he is not here on a regular basis.

 

Hawk made the 1993 mod and he has not been here since November of 2020.

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15 hours ago, Yankee4Life said:

 

Don't even try it. You need permission from each modder to do this. Someone many years ago wanted to make all the new stadiums (at least new at that time) into one big download. It was denied by the modders.

 

If Homer wants to separate his faces he will but naturally it does not hurt to ask. I don't speak for him. I just know he is not here on a regular basis.

 

Hawk made the 1993 mod and he has not been here since November of 2020.

 

I think, and this is just my opinion, in the spirit of preservation, to simply credit the work of the original content creator and it should be in the clear for the most part.

 

I understand that a lot of the guys who have actively worked on those things have probably left the community, but for those of us who recognize these works who are still active in the community, it would enrage us all if the work is uploaded with no credit to any original authors or set up behind a paywall.

 

If we are all collectively mindful of this when we release compilation-type of content, I'm okay with it.

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As KC said, give credit to the original developer and you should be good. I’m OK with this as well, as long as you don’t solicit for donations. If you did that, you would be profiting off the work of others, which is not acceptable. 

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17 minutes ago, Jim825 said:

As KC said, give credit to the original developer and you should be good. I’m OK with this as well, as long as you don’t solicit for donations. If you did that, you would be profiting off the work of others, which is not acceptable. 

 

I see what KC and yourself are saying here and in Hawk's case (the guy who made the '93 mod) he has not been here in over a year and a half. If he came back and he saw that something was done with his mod that he would not approved of he'd have the right to ask it to be removed. Although what Dirtdog is attempting to do will actually improve the mod.

 

Now with Homer, he is not here a lot but he does come here on occasion. He would be a lot easier to get in contact with and explain what he wants to do. Then Homer can decide.

 

The donation part is non-negotiable. I agree, that is not acceptable.

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2 hours ago, Yankee4Life said:

 

I see what KC and yourself are saying here and in Hawk's case (the guy who made the '93 mod) he has not been here in over a year and a half. If he came back and he saw that something was done with his mod that he would not approved of he'd have the right to ask it to be removed. Although what Dirtdog is attempting to do will actually improve the mod.

 

Now with Homer, he is not here a lot but he does come here on occasion. He would be a lot easier to get in contact with and explain what he wants to do. Then Homer can decide.

 

The donation part is non-negotiable. I agree, that is not acceptable.

 

Absolutely agree with the bolded, however we will cross that bridge when we get to it :)

 

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I guess i won't be able to pay my mortgage this month. Lol

 

Guys i am not doing this to profit in anyway,

 

 

I have been working weeks on this type of stuff, ever since I spent 3 weekends downloading every face ever made.

No, I mean every patch and mod ever made.

 

Then came the sorting,

 

 

So, it seems like a go then?

 

Update:

The 1993 Mod i am @ 103 faces now

 

 

Should be finished with these in a couple of days,

 

 

Thanks

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14 hours ago, Dirtdog said:

I guess i won't be able to pay my mortgage this month. Lol

 

Guys i am not doing this to profit in anyway,

 

 

I have been working weeks on this type of stuff, ever since I spent 3 weekends downloading every face ever made.

No, I mean every patch and mod ever made.

 

Then came the sorting,

 

 

So, it seems like a go then?

 

Update:

The 1993 Mod i am @ 103 faces now

 

 

Should be finished with these in a couple of days,

 

 

Thanks

 

It's all good.

 

If we get DMs/messages asked to have it taken down, we will communicate this to you, no worries.

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Here is what Hawk said, first line of his readme. So, i don't think he will have an issue.

 

MVP Baseball 1993 Total Classic  V1.0
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******************************************************************************************
*NOTE: Anyone is welcome to improve this mod or use it as a base for another classic mod!*
******************************************************************************************

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I've made a separate thread to this regarding the 93 Classics in the Mod Announcements area. I have added over 1000 portraits to the 93 mod and fixed a lot errors (i.e. pitchers with 36 velocity and 15 home runs) that were created by the systems when generating random free agents or farm players. I'm doing this as a labor of love, and simply want to share what I think is an enhancement of the mod with anyone who might be interested, and enjoy playing with a full, authentic minor league system from 1993.

 

Dirtdog, I'd be happy to collaborate or share any of my additions that might be of interest to you.

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No problem, will do.

 

But i think me adding faces like I am doing is one thing,

 

But editing Hawks roster and then releasing it may be a whole different animal.

You may need to get permission on that one?

 

Not sure, check with these guys on the rules for that kind of stuff

 

But i am all for whatever we can update on this excellent mod

 

 

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I don't plan to rerelease his mod. I would just release my additions as an optional update for those who want to use it in conjunction with that mod. 

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Update the final face count is 160. I will be releasing this soon to coincide with KiwiLifter's updated roster.

 

Here is the list, it will also be included in the readme with credit and more information.

 

 

 

Total Classics 1993 Update (160 Faces New or Updated)


Face ID#

007- D. Jeter (Jogar84's Version)
010- M. Piazza
011- J. Giambi
013- C. Jones
016- R. Clemens
017- C. Schilling (05 Face) (khinske9311 version)
018- M. Ramirez (Young Manny)
029- J. Damon (No Beard)
030- C. Delgado
031- Andruw Jones (Jogar84 version) Young looking
033- J. Kent
036- J. Gonzalez (04 Face)
038- David Wells (Mustache and crash fix) Credit Rison Son
040- T. Glavine
044- L. Walker
046- J. Posada (A+ Homer version)
047- M. Ordonez (Jogar84 update)
052- J. Edmonds
053- J. Thome
058- D. Justice
065- R. Johnson (Long hair version)
070- S. Rolen
073- O. Vizquel
080- Robin Ventura
091- R. Sexson
097- A. Gallaraga (04 Face)
109- J. Burnitz
111- J. Vidro
118- B. Wagner (Jogar84 version)
126- J. Moyer
137- Derek Lowe
143- E. Renteria (Jogar84 version) 
155- D. Strawberry (Jogar84 version)
160- G. Anderson
171- R. Henderson (Glasses)
179- V. Castilla
198- W. Williams
212- W. Alvarez
216- T. Nixon (Fix and Mustache)
273- M. Batista (04 Face)
293- P. Listach
299- R. Dibble
304- Ben Weber (glasses 05 Face)
382- M. Loretta (05 Face)
411- G. Myers (05 Face)
415- D. Eckersley
427- N. Ryan
448- D. Sveum
457- D. Stieb
468- S. Avery
469- T. Phillips
470- W. Backman
480- G. Brett (Veezmack A+ version)
502- S. Servais
503- C. Hale
504- B. Black
507- T. Lovullo
509- Vince Coleman
511- M. Langston
530- John Farrell
563- A. Van Slyke
568- C. Woodward
572- W. Guerrero  Tone =8 
573- G. Gaetti
574- T. Fryman
575- Jay Bell
576- Dave McCarty
577- W. Cordero
579- K. Maas
580- D. Oliver (04 Face)
582- B. Agbayani (Crash Fix only)
583- K. Stinnett
585- Rick White
586- T. Stottlemyre
587- C. Pride
588- D. Jackson
589- J. Guzman
590- R. Lankford
591- G. Zaun
592- P. Walker
593- B. Chen
594- M. Timlin
595- M. Williams (04 Face)
596- S. Spencer
597- N. Charlton
598- D. Dascenzo
599- E. Perez
600- A. Dawson (05 Face)
601- K. Mercker
607- B. Saberhagen
610- J. McDowell
615- Sid Fernandez
620- M. Boddicker
621- J. Orosco Placeholder
622- R. Belliard (05 Face)
623- Dave Martinez
624- D. DeShields
625- D. Thon
626- G. Olson
627- J. Blauser
628- J. Oquendo
629- L. Johnson
630- L. Polonia
631- M. Bordick
632- M. Gallego
633- R. Greer
634- S. Dunston
635- S. Javier
636- A. Allanson (04 Face)
637- T. Pratt
638- E. Perez 
640- M. Stanley
642- L. McClendon
643- T. Zeile
644- H. Blanco (04 Face)
645- W. Weiss
646- S. Bream (04 face)
647- J. Samuel Placeholder
648- D. West
649- D. Slaught (04 Face)
650- Z. Smith
651- R. Karkovice
652- J. Lugo (Credit compmaniac)
653- R. Renteria
655- M. Jordan
656- T. Perez
657- W. Otañez
659- J. Lima (05 Face)
660- K. Tolar
661- Sandy Martinez
662- L. Lopez
672- M. Smith
673- C. Perez
674- R. Perez
675- M. Lopez (05 Face)
676- V. De Los Santos
666- A. Belle
677- D. Lewis
684- G. Gossage
685- C. Mendez (04 face)
703- Cal Ripken Jr. (04 face)
704- R. Helling
742- J. Hammonds
748- D. Kile
760- G. Blum
775- T. Steinbach
784- M. Jackson
808- Bo Jackson
811- J. Canseco
817- David Weathers
827- C. Knoblauch (Homer Version w/Beard)
828- Joe Girardi (04 Face)
831- B. Butler
854- R. Sutcliffe
864- W. Backman (cleaned up version from TC94mu)
870- J. Carter
881- D. White
888- Dwight Gooden
889- Chris Sabo (04 Face)
895- M. Greenwell (Eye Paint Version)

 

 

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More updates coming to improve on this great 1993 classic mod.

 

 

1. Add-on to the 160 faces previously released, 61 more added, making the grand total 221.

 

2. Missing player audio, this file will contain 105 players audios that were not included in the mod.

 

3. Update 1.2 to KiwiLifters dynasty play roster.

Mainly to add in all the new face ID & players ID #"s. Plus some tweaks, lineup and error fixes.

 

 

Total Classics 1993 Add-On, faces (161-221 New or Updated)

 

Credit for the majority of faces in this add-on
sinu aka terminatorkorea & Jogar84

 

Others are noted

 

 

Face ID#

026- Shawn Green (Jogar84 version) Update
248- Matt Clement (Credit zuerich)
539- Miguel Cairo (Jogar84 version)
652- Julio Lugo (Credit zuerich)
683- Todd Jones (Jogar84 Version) Update V 2.0
697- Omar Linares (pulled from Cuba 2022 Mod)
699- Doug Jones
701- Paul O'Neill (Jogar84 version) Update
706- Jose Vizcaino
708- Ramon Castro (Jogar84 Version)
709- Paul Quantrill (04 Face)
715- Doug Davis (04 Face)
717- Scott Brosius (BallFour version)
723- Mike Stanton (Jogar84 Version) 05 Face
721- Al Reyes (04 Face)
744- John Mabry (04 Face)
746- Miguel Flores
747- Ruben Rivera
749- Kevin Millar (04 Face)
750- Alan Embree (04 Face)
751- Brad Pennington
752- Gabe White (04 Face)
753- Carlos Hernandez (04 Face)
755- Antonio Osuna (04 Face) Skin = 7
756- John Patterson (04 Face) Skin = 3
757- Bob Howry (Credit Tribetime26) 04 Face Skin = 2
758- Brian Meadows
759- Frank Menechino (Jogar84 version) Skin = 3
761- Terry Adams
762- Glendon Rusch (04 Face)
763- Giovanni Carrara (04 Face) Skin = 3
764- Olmedo Saenz (04 Face) 
765- Gary Glover (04 Face)
766- Tom Martin (04 Face)
767- Sal Fasano (Credit TheMadcap)
768- Mark Sweeney (Jogar84 Version)
769- Lenny Harris (Jogar84 Version) 
770- Joe McEwing (Jogar84 Version)
802- Tony Graffanino (Jogar84 Version)
804- Rudy Seanez (Jogar84 Version) Skin = 3
805- Guillermo Mota (Jogar84 Version)
806- Juan Castro (Jogar84 Version)
807- Jose Macias (Jogar84 Version) Skin = 9
810- Alberto castillo 04 Face (Credit Salva) Skin = 5
812- Tim Brydak (Jogar84 Version) Skin = 2
813- Paul Wilson (Credit rokcp99)
814- Tracy Woodson (TC88 Mod)
818- Damon Hollins (Credit rokcp99)
820- Javier Valentin (Credit rokcp99)
822- Bob Geren (Credit thr33niL)
823- Scott Elarton (Credit Tribetime26) 04 Face 
824- Todd Greene (Credit Zach) 04 Face Skin = 2
825- Desi Relaford (Credit Zach) 04 Face Skin = 9
826- Jamey Wright (Credit Zach) 04 Face
828- Joe Girardi (Jogar84 Version) 05 Face
851- Billy Hall (Credit Zach) 04 Face Skin = 11
853- Mike Redmond (Credit Zach) 04 Face Skin = 2
855- Terry Mulholland (Credit Bodhiball) 04 Face
857- John Wasdin (Credit Torement)
858- Greg Colbrunn (Credit Torement)
859- Brian Shouse (Credit Torement)
860-

 

 

 

 

 

Total Classics 1993 player audio Updates (105 Players)


Credits:

If not noted, then the player audio came from Total Classics 10. Credit to Jim825 & the rest of the team for creating it.

Here are the names from the TC10 credits that would be associated with creating these fine in game player audio files.
Who created who, is impossible for me to tell, so i am giving credit to all in the game audio department.

<--------In-Game Audio Department------->   
         
AlexTony: In-Game Audio,

Hory *: In-Game Audio/Spirtual Advisor for Total Classics

Krawhitham *: In-Game Audio

Tony3: In-Game Audio

TxDodger73 *: In-Game Audio

Veesmack *: In-Game Audio

 

Credit to Uncle Mo for his many contributions to the total classics

 

 

tebjr wrote:

 

Those responsible for material developed specifically for Total Classics 1988: (Audio)
Audio: Hory, AlexTony, Homer, TxDodger73, Kraw, tebjr

 

#0013- Luis Alicea
#0022- Brady Anderson
#0059- Tim Belcher
#0094- Bobby Bonilla
#0119- Jay "Bone" Buhner (Nickname file) Credit Homer
#0137- Tom Candiotti
#0155- Norm Charlton (PA only)
#0173- David Cone
#0175- Dennis Cook
#0264- Alex Fernandez
#0286- Travis Fryman
#0318- Dwight Gooden
#0321- Mark Grace
#0325- Craig Grebeck
#0411- Darrin Jackson
#0412- Mike Jackson
#0427- Lance Johnson
#0438- Chipper Jones (Kuiper file only) Credit Jogar84
(Kuiper last name, will say "Chipper" instead of "Jones")
#0439- Doug Jones
#0444- Michael Jordan (Credit Veezmack)
#0458- D. Kile (Credit Veezmack)
#0524- Mike Maddux
#0526- Dave Magadan
#0537- Dave Martinez
#0603- Mike Morgan
#0654- Paul O'Neill
#0659- Jessie Orosco
#0699- Tony Phillips
#0704- Dan Plesac
#0707- Luis Polonia
#0846- Mike Stanley
#0854- Todd Stottlemyre
#0904- Mo Vaughn (Credit TC1995)
#0944- Devon White (Credit Veezmack)
#0993- Carlos Baerga
#1070- Tom Filer (Id changed from #8395)
#1076- Dale Sveum (Id changed from #5387)
#1119- Mark Grant
#1240- Tim Raines
#1355- Julio Franco
#1460- Jose Rijo
#2973- Jack Armstrong (Id changed from #5725)
#3257- Tim Byrdak (Id changed from #5150) (Credit Jogar84) 
#4366- Mel Rojas (Id changed from #9677) (Credit luti57)
#4766- Carlos Perez (Id changed from #684) (Credit luti57)
#4932- Pete Rose Jr. (Id changed from #1974)
#5023- Mike Scioscia (Id changed from #5040)
#5321- Juan Samuel (ID changed from #7926)
Changed Huck Flener ID from #5321 to #7926
#5335- Kevin McReynolds
#5362- Jason Bates (ID changed from #5096)
#5400- Larry Anderson
#5402- Lenny Dykstra
#5403- Jim Eisenreich
#5404- Pete Incaviglia
#5409- David West
#5504- Shane Mack
#5354- B. Saberhagen (ID changed from #774)
#5512- Carl Willis
#5577- Mike Blowers
#5925- Don Slaught
#5944- Bob Walk
#5980- M. Langston (Credit Veezmack)
#6134- Terry Pendelton (Credit Homer)
#7086- Vince Coleman (Id changed from #7951)
#7160- Chili Davis (Id changed from #7860)
#7304- Joe Carter
#7279- Jeff King
#7283- Zane Smith
#7384- Danny Jackson
#7483- Dave Henderson (Id changed from #7956)
#7521- Eric Davis (Id changed from #0207)
#7685- Gene Larkin
#7711- Ricky Jordan
#7713- Tommy Greene
#7747- Lloyd McClendon
#7884- Jose DeLeon
#7885- Ron Karkovice
#7886- Mike LaValliere
#7889- Jack McDowell
#8078- Chris Sabo (Id changed from #7836)
#8079- Rob Dibble
#8229- "Goose" Gossage
#8239- Tom Pagnozzi
#8829- Andre Dawson (Id changed from #7847)
#9006- Darryl Strawberry (Id changed from #0856)
#9028- Cecil Fielder (Id changed from #7921)
#9035- Mariano Duncan (Id changed from #7773)
#9037- Wade Boggs
#9057- Don Mattingly
#9342- Jose Oquendo
#9558- Kent Hrbek
#9564- Kirby Puckett
#9579- Benny Agbayani (Id changed from #7)
#9665- Gil Heredia (Id changed from #373)
#9671- Ken Hill (ID changed from #386)
#9678- Mike Lansing (ID changed from #474)
#9683- Sean Berry (Id changed from #81)
#9809- Alberto Castillo (Id changed from #147) (Credit jaycee20)
#9925- Alfredo Griffin
#9930- Fernando Valenzuela (Id changed from #7999)
#9942- Orel Hershiser (Id changed from #0382)

 

Free agents in TC93 Dynasty roster only:
#6233- Carney Lansford (Id changed from #7025) (Credit Homer)
#7447- Dave Parker (Id changed from #7129)
#7701- Gary Carter (Id changed from #7027) (Credit Veezmack)
#9331- Ken Dayley

 

Delete: Incorrect ID's
Audio # 2673 PA only


*Change player ID's
#7086 Gavin Osteen to 0
#7483 Will Brunson to 0
#7521 Mike Kotarski to 0
#7911 Tony Pena - switch ID to #5020 to hear his audio

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Ok, UncleMo, 👍

 

Thank you very much for your audio work.

 

I was just going off the list from TC10 & TC88, where i pulled the majority of these audio files from.

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I will be uploading both of these this week.

 

The add on to faces, which now sits @ 226

That is 66 new faces added from the original pack last month,

 

New:

351- Alex Ramirez (Credit junior1617) Skin = 4

860- Bo Porter (Credit Jed)
865- Doug Mirabelli (Credit Bodhiball)
868- Jay Witasick (Credit Zach)
869- Dave Berg (Credit LeVeRRes) 04 Face

 

The new 105 audio pack and the updated roster will also be uploaded.

 

1993!!! Classic mod, my favorite as you can see.

 

 

Schedule update, in case you are waiting for this. 54 game schedules

 

I finished the (Dynasty season 1) of the 54-game schedule I have been working on, some of the most tedious work I have ever done!

 

Starting on season 2 & 3 of the schedules now, should be much faster, now that I have 54 games excel spreadsheet as a base.

 

 

Here is how i am doing my schedules, the formula & structure:

 

1993 used 4, 7 team divisions. 2 in each league.

AL East/West & NL East/West

 

**This is a generic or fantasy schedule, with zero accuracy to the real schedule of 1993 or any other season that had 28 MLB teams., so I don't care how accurate it is, just that it doesn't crash, and every team has

 

-54 total games (27 Home & 27 Away)

 

-23 Division games

 

-1 - 2 game interleague series against the teams East or West counterpart from the other league (This is for season 1) Then i plan to switch only this part for season 2 to the other interleague division. This way in the first 2 seasons you will have played every team and in every ballpark.

 

-The remaining 17 games are against the other teams in the league (AL or NL), with an extra game or two against the easier team or harder in reverse order of the final standings from 1993.

 

I will also be editing the MiLB schedules, if this can be done? Still not sure

 

AAA- Will have a 54 games schedule as well., but much simpler each team will just play the other 27 AAA teams twice.

 

AA- 27 games (One time each)

 

A-Ball- 27 Games (One time each)

 

 

Yes, i plan to play all the games live. No simming

 

 

 I am doing this, because I love to play dynasties and let’s be honest, how many of us play 162 games and in my case 162 games plus 130+ for AAA and so on.

 

 

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Have you actually tried simming a season?  If you are using just two divisions per league, you will run into problems when you get to the playoffs.

 

The game is hard coded to use 3 divisions in each league and when the playoffs start, it uses the 3 division winners and 1 wildcard team in each league with 2 rounds of playoffs before the World Series. 

 

That is why all of the classic mods have 3 divisions in each league. We didn’t want to do it that way but had no choice. 

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Hey, Jim

 

Thanks for this information.

No i didn't change the divisions or messed with the teams.dat or which file would be needed to do that.

I just used what came with the 93 mod.

 

but i did notice the 3 divisions while simming, now i know why. Thanks

So, every classic mod will be like this, some hardcoded things have to be.

 

I was just merely speaking how the MLB divisions were set up in 1993 and when they had 28 teams.

Trying to create an interleague schedule of sorts before interleague was a thing and how i did it.

 

I used the 1993 final standings and just having those 4 divisions, made it a little easier to do.

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Got it. In many of the classic mods, the divisions were setup so that the Central division contained just the last place teams from the East and West divisions. 
 

It’s not perfect but at least it allowed us to be able to get through the playoffs. 

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