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dont worry about it roy. im going to start the NL East. guys, when you get to a stopping point in your work send the teams your have done to my email, email me at rman216@hotmail.com. again, ratings arent priority for me atm, but if you want to go right ahead.

so are we redoing the ratings for players, or are we just doing ratings for new players? Both ways are fine, just need to know. :) Also, we are using hiheats as a base right?

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both, and yes we are using hiheats latest rosters as a base.

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yes, hiheat's rosters as the base, we'll make sure to give him full credit, along with everyone else who helped him compose his rosters.

I suppose it would be OK to leave the ratings alone, but I don't recommend it, as some players had monster 2009 seasons but not 2010 and vice vursa. Players who experienced drastic changes in performance include Zack Grienke, Tim Lincecum, and Jose Bautista. Therefore, what I'm going to do is adjust ratings to fit a perceived medium: not exactly in accord with 2010 stats, but leaning heavily upon 2011 predictions. This will allow greater accuracy for players expected to capitalize on their potential (like Buster Posey), players who have experienced a decline of speed and/or production with age (Johnny Damon/Bobby Abreu), and better temper the ratings of players who had monster or disastrous years (Jose Bautista, Pablo Sandoval).

Because I am devoted to calculating ratings which reflect a player's abilities, and not a particular year's production, I try to restrict myself to ratings adjustments of players/teams with which I am familiar. Hence, why I chose the NL Central.

~Chris

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roy if you dont want to do the ratings, thats fine with me, it'll get done one way or another lol.

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roy if you dont want to do the ratings, thats fine with me, it'll get done one way or another lol.

Oh no its fine. I was just wondering how you guys were doing it. :) I will do some teams, I may not go fast, but I'll get some done. :)

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BTW, be careful with Dylan's calculators . . . they have a tendency to over-rate a pitcher's movement on his throws, seemingly giving almost every pitch a "15" rating if a pitcher has a 3.00 ERA or lower. I usually temper this by making sure a dominant pitcher has at least one dominant pitch, and consulting scouting reports to figure out which pitche(s) ought to be rated this way. You can find that web-site here: http://60ft6in.com/

Further, Baseball-reference is probably the most convenient place to find fielding, pitching, and batting stats and splits. http://www.baseball-reference.com/

I figure most of you guys already know this, but I post in case you didn't.

~Chris

EDIT: There is also Cot's Baseball contracts for reference as to how each player is signed. If he is in his arbitration years, I usually tack on another year to his contract length and slightly more than double his total salary. For all other players, I average out the total contract money over the contract length.

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I embarked upon a similar project midway through last season. I was able to update MLB, Triple-A, Double-A, A.L. All-Stars, N.L. All-Stars, A.L. Future Stars, and N.L. Future Stars (not including attribute, appearance, or cyberface updates). But, like SESbb30, I ultimately determined that it was too large (and too dynamic) of a project to complete by myself in a timely manner (with college breathing down my neck).

I have posted a link to MVP_Baseball_2010_(July_17th,_2010).zip (which contains a custom set of References and Rosters) below:

MVP_Baseball_2010_(July_17th,_2010).zip (26 MB)

The custom set of References and Rosters are described in README.txt (in MVP_Baseball_2010_(July_17th,_2010).zip) as follows:

1 ) /References

A ) attrib.xls

Glossary to qualify each parameter and possible value in attrib.dat with a description

B ) Cyberface (Sort by Cyberface).xls

List of MVP Baseball 2005 Cyberfaces sorted numberically by player's cyberface number

C ) Cyberface (Sort by Last Name).xls

List of MVP Baseball 2005 Cyberfaces sorted alphabetically (A to Z) by player's last name

D ) Organization.xls

List of URLs (for current rosters) for each club (MLB, Triple-A, Double-A, or Single-A) represented

2 ) /Rosters

A ) /F (July 17th, 2010)

2010 A.L. Future Stars and N.L. Future Stars (Not Complete)

as of July 17th, 2010

based on MVP Baseball 2005 (Stock), 7.2 for PS2, 7.31 Plus, and 2k10 to MVP rosters

B ) /MLB-AAA-AA-AS (July 17th, 2010)

2010 MLB, Triple-A, Double-A, A.L. All-Stars, and N.L. All-Stars (Complete)

as of July 17th, 2010

based on MVP Baseball 2005 (Stock), 7.2 for PS2, 7.31 Plus, and 2k10 to MVP rosters

C ) /MLB-AAA-AA-AS-F (July 17th, 2010)

2010 MLB, Triple-A, Double-A, A.L. All-Stars, N.L. All-Stars, A.L. Future Stars, and N.L. Future Stars (Not Complete)

/MLB-AAA-AA-AS-F (July 17th, 2010) = /MLB-AAA-AA-AS (July 17th, 2010) + /F (July 17th, 2010)

as of July 17th, 2010

based on MVP Baseball 2005 (Stock), 7.2 for PS2, 7.31 Plus, and 2k10 to MVP rosters

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

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Just finished the Brewers today. I'm a little upset that there weren't any scouting reports on Kameron Loe and Zach Braddock, but I think I have a pretty good idea of what these guys are like.

On to the Reds!!!

~Chris

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Can I jump in with you guys? I was going to handle the entire roster, but it may be too daunting of a task. Chris.... we had a guy use the Reds in our league this winter and ALL pitchers were tweaked for type and speed. Some players were adjusted but we limited it (I know Votto was done, probably Bruce too)....

And yes, we based it off of hiheat's roster. I also used these sources:

http://www.mlbdepthcharts.com/2009/02/spreadsheets-at-mlbdepthchartscom.html

http://www.fangraphs.com/players.aspx (for pitch types and current speeds, didn't touch movements though)

http://60ft6in.com/ (to round out pitch types and speeds and to see if any fastballers had movement on a pitch since otherwise all 4 seamers were "0") --- team links at the bottom, but some info. maybe be archival, so take a look.

** I think it's also important to test along the way, i.e., after importing a team each time.

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we could use all the help we can get.

Should I start tackling the AL West? Also, how are we going to avoid possible clone players? That is, if I happen to bring someone up from a AA team and you import to that organization, he may still be on your AA team.

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who sent me the brewers.met, if i didnt make changes to the brewers, and you did, wouldnt that erase any players that were on the brewers in the first place on my end?

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who sent me the brewers.met, if i didnt make changes to the brewers, and you did, wouldnt that erase any players that were on the brewers in the first place on my end?

I did.

Well, it depends upon how you import the team. If you choose "add" then it will merely pile the new players on top of the old, creating duplicates in some cases. If you choose "replace," it will wipe out the former team and only the newly imported players will appear. I recommend you keep several versions of the rosters, including a "master" file which you only change when you finalize team rosters with player ratings. MVPEdit has an annoying habit of saving your changes as you make them, with no undo button . . .

BTW, here is the Brewers team file (.met for MVPEdit) for those of you who would like to playtest it and give me feedback.

EDIT: fixed Zach Grienke's slider, gave him a 2-seam fastball

~Chris

MIL.zip

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