medric822 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I was thinking to myself how cool it would be if we were able to see how hitters from past or present would fare against pitchers likewise. And then I started thinking, what would the best matchup be? So, I figured I'd ask the community what their take on this was. Please list what batter from what team matched against what pitcher from what team, and your predictions on the outcome of that one matchup. Here's mine: Batter- Mickey Mantle (Yankees) V.S. Pitcher-Babe Ruth (Boston-when Ruth was a pitcher, he was as good as Cy Young, if not better) Prediction on outcome- I love both of these players, but I'd have to say that Mantle would get at best a single. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliesphan18 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Mantle (Yankees) Walter Johnson (Senators) Hmm... Not sure about this match-up, when Johnson was really on his fastball was unhittable. I'd say Mantle might eek out a single if anything at all, if not, he's a strike-out victim. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-392490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padres67 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Sandy Koufax vs. Babe Ruth-when Koufax was on-which was most of the time from '62-'66-he was unhittable-just ask the '63 Yankees. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-392495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred13 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Sandy Koufax vs. Babe Ruth-when Koufax was on-which was most of the time from '62-'66-he was unhittable-just ask the '63 Yankees. Wow, that's exactly what I thought when I looked at this thread. That would be quite a match-up. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-392528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian6980 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Nolan Ryan vs Albert Pujols - My guess is that Ryan gets him, but it would be interesting to see. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-392537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
northpaw Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Koufax is the most dominating pitcher ever.... Koufax versus Bonds, Ruth, or Aaron Off topic but Hank Aaron is the most underrated Hall of Famer Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-392538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkslide820 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Eddie Plank vs. Mickey Tettleton Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-392539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HFLR Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Nolan Ryan vs. Ichiro Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-392545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SESbb30 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Nolan Ryan Vs. Pujols Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-393774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 pedro vs the babe or mariano rivera vs ted williams Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-393781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean O Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Pitcher-Babe Ruth (Boston-when Ruth was a pitcher, he was as good as Cy Young, if not better) gwuh? Ruth career ERA+: 122 Cy Young career ERA+: 138 Ruth was good, and 1916 was a banner year, but he was never a consistent elite pitcher. Pedro Martinez was the best pitcher of all time at his peak, and Ruth was the best hitter. That's my pick. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-393786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroEric Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Well, Babe Ruth v. Babe Ruth wouldn't be too bad. It'd be the ultimate post-modern baseball matchup, and each player would have the best possible scouting report on the other.... Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-393834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonalano013 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Well, Babe Ruth v. Babe Ruth wouldn't be too bad. It'd be the ultimate post-modern baseball matchup, and each player would have the best possible scouting report on the other.... lol, that was a good one Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-393839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
59FIFTY Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Pujols vs. Johan Santana(best hitter and pitchers at the moment) Bonds vs. Nolan Ryan(imo he's better than ruth he's gonna break his record!) Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-393849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaplerisking Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Pedro vs. Babe. I just want to see this because of Pedro's comments a few years back when he said "Wake up the damn Bambino, I'll drill him in the ***." Winner - No one I guess....Pedro could drill him, but Ruth was a big guy and had enough padding back there that'd it just bounce off...maybe tickle a little. So Ruth reaches base but Pedro got to hit him, I'd say its a tie. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-393850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace152 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Bob Gibson vs Ty Cobb Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-393865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkslide820 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Finally someone mentions Ty. That one would be the battle of the I'm-pissed-at-you people. How about, Roger Clemens vs. Honus Wagner. I think Honus eeks out a triple. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-394070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
konjo Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I don't know if it would be the best match up, but I would like to see Ty Cobb vs. Mark Fidrych. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-394564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
medric822 Posted April 7, 2007 Author Share Posted April 7, 2007 mariano rivera vs ted williams Must admit, this sounds like a real good matchup. Maybe the best I've seen on this thred. Baseball's best cutter/closer VS Teddy Ballgame, the man who had 7/20 vision (it's in a biography about him I read). Would he even be able to see mo's cutter? Did pitchers enem throw that fast back then? It's a question that probably will never be answered, not with sold prof. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-394597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkslide820 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 That is a pretty good one. They always talk about the cutter breaking in on the lefties unexpetedly, so it would be interesting to see Teddy handle it. One question: In these match-ups, do you take into account a scouting report or just pure skills? If you threw Ted against Mariano blind, it would turn out different than if you were allowing the two to scout out each other first. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-394603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
medric822 Posted April 7, 2007 Author Share Posted April 7, 2007 Well, thats a thought I never took into mind. But lets say that he did scout Mo. Would he have a better chance of hitting a pitch he has yet to see thrown to him? Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-394608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkslide820 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I think so. By scouting, I mean talking with other players about him, watching footage, etc. Of course the pitch would look different from the batter's box, but you know what I mean. Besides, Ted's too good. He'd probably be able to adapt. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-394629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
medric822 Posted April 7, 2007 Author Share Posted April 7, 2007 I admit, Ted was a good ball player, but I see him ebing able to hit any pitch but that cutter. Was it even around in Ted's time? Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-394851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkslide820 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Well, the slider was supposedly around in the 30's and 40's with the likes of Bob Feller, but it probably moved to a much lesser extent than you expect it today. It may have moved as much as today's cutter. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-394948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDoro Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Ted Williams vs Randy Johnson (in prime) Ted Williams always said if he had a chance to step into the box against one of the modern pitchers it would be against The Unit. He once had a dream about this matchup. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/28421-alltime-pitcher-vs-hitter-matchup/#findComment-398433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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