abc006 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Is that the proper spelling of "schmuks"? Does it only have an "sh" instead of "sch"? Perhaps it's "Shmuks"? Anyway, among others are Ty Cobb (obviously - don't get me started), Rogers Hornsby (didn't go to his mother's funeral to play a game in the middle of the season, plus more all-around schmuk/schmuck/shmuk/shmuck-ness), Albert Belle (Just an all around idiot), Ugeth Urbina (Stabbed a couple of people to death, enough said. That's just scary.), and... some other racist and anti-semetic jerks in the early 1900s and teens whose names I forget, and don't really want to know. On the side of more "they didn't really kill anybody or have disriminatory ideals but still are all-around jerks": Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling, occasionally Gary Sheffield... What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNateGBent Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Albert Belle is probably my top ten Schmuckiest out there. He was really what I hate about baseball right now put into one unattractive package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guildster Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 George W. Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Jeffery Loria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobluen07 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 George W is easily the biggest schmuck in the history of the world paris hilton is a close second i gues she would be a schmuckess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HFLR Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Urbina.. Ughhhhh thats sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddux31 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Easily B*nds. Actually thought this was another B*nds thread..Well it kind of is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc006 Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 George W. Bush.Good point, Bush was in baseball tragically for a bit. He made the great move of trading Sammy Sosa to the White Sox. However, I wouldn't call Bush only a schmuk, he, Cheney, Rummy, MC Rove... they're all in a very, very disturbing class of their own. I don't want to talk about it. gobluen, I don't really think paris hilton has every played pro ball, so she wouldn't really count, but... yeah, she would be very high on the shmuckess list, just below Laura Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobluen07 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 ya i guess she hasnt played baseball huh lol she was just on tv again for the 9000th time today so i figured id throw her in there. oh and rickey henderson was a pretty large size dueschebag too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddux31 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 At least Rickey had/has a true, pure, clean, love for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sully04 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 John Rocker anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobluen07 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 At least Rickey had/has a true, pure, clean, love for the game. ya and he is also the greatest of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRog Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 rocker :lmao: wasn't he like racist and homophobic (and made fun of mets fans (not sure about that last one)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sully04 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 I believe it was all of New York, and being in the NL east he saw Mets fans rather frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRog Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 excellent pitcher but had a real sh*tty personality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc006 Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 Oh yeah, forgot about John Rocker. Oh God. He's defenitely in the top 10 schmucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP_Frost Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Pierzynski is sort of a schmuck how about Bud Selig? or is he just retarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc006 Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 Selig isn't a schmuk - he's not a mean guy, or a jerk, he just occasionally has... undesirable opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee4Life Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Anyway, among others are Ty Cobb (obviously - don't get me started), Rogers Hornsby (didn't go to his mother's funeral to play a game in the middle of the season, First of all, good thread and welcome back to the U.S. Ty Cobb was a product of his times. I am not really going to hammer on him for what he did because that's how things were back then. Cobb was a product of the deep south, and when he was born (in 1886) the south was still smarting over the Civil War. It was still a very touchy subject at the time. Cobb was forever mistrustful of Northerners and blacks, the two groups of people who he saw and many other people around him at the time, as the cause of the trouble in the south. Now, I won't give him a free pass for this, but I will say I see one reason why he was how he was. As for Hornsby, you are correct and incorrect at the same time. Hornsby did put off going to his mother's funeral as you said, but this happened during the 1926 World Series and not in the middle of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc006 Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 First of all, good thread and welcome back to the U.S. Ty Cobb was a product of his times. I am not really going to hammer on him for what he did because that's how things were back then. Cobb was a product of the deep south, and when he was born (in 1886) the south was still smarting over the Civil War. It was still a very touchy subject at the time. Cobb was forever mistrustful of Northerners and blacks, the two groups of people who he saw and many other people around him at the time, as the cause of the trouble in the south. Now, I won't give him a free pass for this, but I will say I see one reason why he was how he was. As for Hornsby, you are correct and incorrect at the same time. Hornsby did put off going to his mother's funeral as you said, but this happened during the 1926 World Series and not in the middle of the season.Ok, I wasn't sure about that about Hornsby, thanks for correcting me. And yes, Cobb was a product of his times, that was how he was brought up, so in a way he had no way of not becoming a schmuck, but... he's still a schmuck, and one of the biggest ones in baseball history. :? More to the point, though, is that I guess he wasn't the only one of those times like himself - I'm sure there were plenty of people just as schmucky as him, but his fame and actual baseball talent made him more of the famous schmucks of that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lz477 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Selig isn't a schmuk - he's not a mean guy, or a jerk, he just occasionally has... undesirable opinions. Is the President a mean guy or a jerk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwentySeven Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Do any of you actually know what a schmuck... is? I know I do, but I doubt any of you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 why would you doubt anyone else knows it but you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwentySeven Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Because its meaning isn't exactly commonly known. I am in a Jewish youth group myself and of the 30+ people in it, me and one other person were the only people who knew its meaning (at least until we educated everyone else). It's not exactly a common word considering its from a language that nobody uses at all anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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