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The MVP 2005 and Windows 10 Thread

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Why is a no cd crack wrong in this case if one owns the legit cds? This is the solution right now & I don't see it being any different then modding the game at this point.

This is a good question. I'll take a seat here and try to explain and elaborate on things the best way I can:

The game uses copyright protection in the executable. This we know for sure, since if you don't have Disc 2, the game won't run, or if you mounted an ISO for Disc 2, the game won't run anyway since it checks the disc for a very specific set of bytes that can't be replicated by casually burning/mounting an ISO of Disc 2.

Circumventing (working around) that protection by cracking the game is pirating software. It's no different than playing a copy of MLB2K12 that you've "acquired" and using rld.dll to get around the DRM on the disc/Steam versions, or installing a KMS loader on Windows 7 so your version appears genuine. Same idea.

Since you mention modding, this is another point I'd like to address:
As a modder, there is a difference between modding a uniform and modding a game so it can run without the security measures in place. A huge difference. modding the game by tampering with the game's texture files (which is, let's be honest, a vast majority of the work featured on our site) is entirely different, because the game will *still* work,  modified files or not.

Since we're on the topic of piracy/cracking the game, I consider myself to be a much more progressive admin when it comes to trying to tackle this issue and as such my views have evolved a bit over the years. I've come to an understanding that we as a collective, inclusive community are supporting a disc-based game in an age where where we have Steam, GMG, and Origin for digital games. First things first, let's be honest here: Disc-based games are hard to find and expensive to pay for. I mean, in no way am I ever forking over over $100 for MVP on Amazon or EBay again. The best way to keep a copy of MVP 2005 these days is to just generate the ISOs and store them somewhere, (be it on the cloud, a portable hard drive), and mount them whenever you need to, and play with a crack. I understand this is how a majority of the community plays the game these days. I don't think it really matters if someone has a cracked copy of MVP or a legal copy of MVP as going on a witch hunt does nothing but splinter the community, which is what we don't want.

If you believe cracking the game will allow you to play MVP on Windows 10, at the end of the day, all that I ask, as your admin, is to avoid discussing piracy publicly. This includes information such as how to find no-cd cracks, torrents, ISOs, etc. If you want to keep things in PMs, do that instead. That's fine with me.

Posting a crack or a link to a crack, let alone asking how to find one on the forums will get you an immediate ban. It's outlined in the rules/site guidelines and it's a rule our staff would feel that you consciously broke.

We've put in a lot of time in revamping our site and in how we communicate with our users as part of the 10th anniversary of MVP and it would suck to see people go. I'm not a fan of banning people outright, because people always come back, but we can only clarify the rules as much as we can.

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All good points, and not looking to get banned, I'm just wondering what the solution in 2015 is. 

I just don't think this is a pirating issue. The new operating system has made our games unable to launch. So what will the solution be? Is copying a file from Win8 or 7 into 10 acceptable? If the solution isn't this, I'll be interested to see what is. 

 

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Maybe we should let the game die with Win 10 as there is only one fix to enable it to run at least so far that we can't discuss.

All good points, and not looking to get banned, I'm just wondering what the solution in 2015 is. 

I just don't think this is a pirating issue. The new operating system has made our games unable to launch. So what will the solution be? Is copying a file from Win8 or 7 into 10 acceptable? If the solution isn't this, I'll be interested to see what is. 

 

Copying the file doesn't work.  For some reason the game didn't see it even though it matched the Win 7 folder.

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All good points, and not looking to get banned, I'm just wondering what the solution in 2015 is. 

I just don't think this is a pirating issue. The new operating system has made our games unable to launch. So what will the solution be? Is copying a file from Win8 or 7 into 10 acceptable? If the solution isn't this, I'll be interested to see what is. 

 

It's what I'm trying to figure out.

I have copies of Windows 7, 8, 8.1 and 10 (shoutout to my IT jobs over the years), but I'm not trying to install a new OS either for regular use or within a virtual machine just to play MVP.

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there really isn't a solution yet since 10 is so new.  until then the only solution i see is to try  it in a virtual machine.  for a guy like me who mods, and needs xp to mod cyberfaces, it's feasible for me to use windows xp in a virtual machine. it might not be the best choice for everyone, but for right now it's the only way I know that will make it possibly work.  for those of you who are interested in using xp or any other operating system on a virtual machine, you can use virtualbox:  https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

really simple to use and allows you to do regular backups.

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there really isn't a solution yet since 10 is so new.  until then the only solution i see is to try  it in a virtual machine.  for a guy like me who mods, and needs xp to mod cyberfaces, it's feasible for me to use windows xp in a virtual machine. it might not be the best choice for everyone, but for right now it's the only way I know that will make it possibly work.  for those of you who are interested in using xp or any other operating system on a virtual machine, you can use virtualbox:  https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

really simple to use and allows you to do regular backups.

You know what the kicker is? I don't have a copy of Windows XP.

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they're not hard to come by.  i find them all the time.  i have the image files for them so i scoured craigslist awhile back and bought a few keys.  

and if you have an install disc, imagine you can just install it as a trial version to try it out.  with xp, i don't connect it to the internet for security reasons, so it's just used to run games and mod.

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I have MVP15 running in Win 10 but it studders like before the original patches.  Plays on my Win 7 with no issues at all.

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oh and if you don't have xp, the other option is to install XP Mode.  apparently it can be done on 10.  

http://www.download3k.com/articles/How-to-add-an-XP-Mode-Virtual-Machine-to-Windows-10-or-8-using-Hyper-V-00770

i think by now it is well established that these games aren't running on 10.  i can't imagine that it's high on microsoft's priority list to get mvp baseball running, so these are likely the only solutions until someone else provides an actual fix.

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I have the game running in Win 10 but I just have to figure out how to get that little studder out of the ball being thrown.  It's the same little studder that was in the game prior to patch 3.  All my other games run great in Win 10.  Think it is going to be the older ones that are going to be trouble.

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I have the game running in Win 10 but I just have to figure out how to get that little studder out of the ball being thrown.  It's the same little studder that was in the game prior to patch 3.  All my other games run great in Win 10.  Think it is going to be the older ones that are going to be trouble.

I'm having this same problem. Maybe a reinstall will help?

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I'm having this same problem. Maybe a reinstall will help?

I've clean installed the game three times and still trying different AMD video drivers. 

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I've clean installed the game three times and still trying different AMD video drivers. 

Try to enable VSYNC in both the Catalyst Control Center and in the game

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Will try that next chance I get and report back.  Enabled VSYNC in both but still have the studder when ball is in the air.  Tried a few different drivers.  Win 10 just doesn't like older games it appears.

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I have micro stuttering,too-now and then.But it´s playable.It´s not like playing the game unpatched,where it´s stuttering like hell.

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Anyone is having issue using TiT with Windows 10? 

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I may be wrong but just offering up a thought.  I remember there was some stutter before some of the later MVP patches fixed that issue.  I thought the no-cd option was created before the patches and that could be the reason for the stutter returning since this seems to be the only way to play MVP currently on Windows 10.

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I have a problem running TiT with Windows 10, I got this message "Subscript used with non-Array variable", what is that?

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I have a problem running TiT with Windows 10, I got this message "Subscript used with non-Array variable", what is that?

Never seen that before.  I installed TIT the same as Win 7.  Extracted the file to the C:EASports/MVP2005 folder as always and ran the setup.  Worked like it always did.  I just can't get the stutter out of the game with the ball in the air.  

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My game studders when the ball is in the air too. We might have to just live with it...

Not me.  That's one of the reasons I dual boot with Win 7 until I see how Win 10 will be.  I have continued my season in Win 7 and will use it in Win 10 if it ever works there perfectly.  If not I will continue to use Win 7 on my other SSD.  The stutter is the only issue I have right now.  Otherwise the game runs good.

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My game studders when the ball is in the air too. We might have to just live with it...

I think,the solution for me is to close google chrome.The stuttering seems to be less / game runs normal most of the time.

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